Thank you Animal! Even though my Yanks are out this year at least I won't hear about it from my friends out in Arizona like I did last year. Oh well......
Jesus Christ
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Angels Eliminate Yankees. California RULES!!!
by footprints inthe wild-card angels wrapped up the al division series with a 9-5 victory .
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Angels Eliminate Yankees. California RULES!!!
by footprints inthe wild-card angels wrapped up the al division series with a 9-5 victory .
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Jesus Christ
Damn it. All I can say is the Diamond Backs better get knocked out too or else I'm going to be hearing it from various friends.
Just for the record, I was a Yanks fan in the mid/late 80's on. For those of you who may not remember they sucked back then. If they weren't the last in their division they were very close. I always like seeing them kick some butt now. Needless to say, I'm not happy. :(
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I Knew I Loved You
by bikerchic ini just heard this song today on the radio coming home from work.
i remember when it first came out a couple of years ago and i couldn't listen to it.
it was for me one of those songs that made me wonder why i couldn't have a love like that.
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Jesus Christ
I remember back in college (me being the guy who types stuff out for Jesus because as well all know, JC is up in heaven and celibate and all that stuff) there was a U2 concert in St. Louis I wanted to go to and I just knew that there was going to be something big in the way of love happen because of it. Didn't know what, didn't know how, had no idea why I had the feeling but all I know is I had it. A girl I was friends with decided to go with me and bring some of her friends. I thought that maybe we'd hook up or something like that but we ended up having a rather big falling out (she thought I was part of a conspiracy to break into her house and clean her carpets, no, I'm not making that up) and I got stuck with 4 extra tickets but I still had this nagging feeling that something big was going to happen because of this concert and I just had to go to it no matter what. I sold one to some guy over the net, another one to a female friend (utterly, totally, platonic friend) of mine, and ran into this girl I knew back in high school who just happened to love U2. I sold her one and she wanted to bring a friend that I didn't know. Well, a long story made short is that almost 5 years later that friend I didn't know and I are VERY happily married and have a great little 2 year old boy named Ethan. We spend as much time as we can together and really have a lot of fun.
Oh yeah, what was the first song at our wedding you ask? "All I Want Is You" by U2. Appropriate huh?
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Changes
by Jesus Christ ini was going through my closet today and came across a box of old pictures.
some of them had this girl i used to be friends with in them.
we were friends in school and after graduation she was one of the only people i cared to stay in touch with.
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Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the really great comments and first of all, I'd just like to say welcome home (although belatedly) to both Lew and Yeru. You guys stepped up and did what needed to be done and therefore deserve the respect and dignity that should be given from people who couldn't do it themselves (self included, damn pancreas).As for my old friend, I do kind of wonder if alcohol played a part in her behavior. I've seen the effects that can have on people up close and personal but I'm just not sure if that's what happened with her. I know she definitely drank more once she had gotten back but I don't know if it was because she was screwed up or if she was screwed up because she drank more. Who knows, it probably could have been a bit of both. I kind of think she may have had depression on top of it all though I'm pretty sure that it wasn't schizophrenia. She also didn't start dating that married guy until she had already been going downhill for a while. I'm pretty sure they're still together but I don't really know because I haven't talked to her for over three years and just about anything I know about her is through various common friends that we'll both run into from time to time.
More than anything, I just hope she's ok. I don't talk to her anymore, haven't in years, and to tell the truth, I really don't even want to because of all the stuff that's happened. Truth be told I'd actually be happier if I never saw her again for the rest of my life. Still though, we were really close for quite some time and before she went over to Europe to see her friend she was a great person that I cared alot about, its just a shame someone else came back in her body. She definitely had her problems but still, I hope that somehow she's been able to work through it all and is living a happy life now wherever she is or whoever is in it. That's the real reason I started this thread. I was wondering if anyone else has had something like that happen and how the person who changed dramaticly ended up.
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Shame On All of You
by DakotaRed inall week long, much has been done here that could rip silentlambs apart.
pat garza has faced ridicule and scorn, bill bowen is now also being drug about by his short hairs over his letters by all you arm chair attorney's who haven't contributed an iota of what he has or placed yourselves anywhere near harm's way as he has.
all i can say is i'm damned ashamed of all of you and i'm through with this shit!!!!!.
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I'm with you Lew. Its easy for people who have no personal stake to sit back and talk about how someone who's actually doing something should do it. I'd invite any one of them to even attampt to do a fraction of what he's done. And just on a personal level, I'd like to thank you for sharing your time with us and bringing some wise insight. About the only times I've ever disagreed with you on anything is only when I'm being an idiot and need someone to tell me so.
For those of you who are criticizing Bill for all his great work and are screaming and yelling about how you should be able to say and do what you want, shut up. Look, I'm sorry you were in an enviroment where you were stifled in the past but have you ever stopped to consider that maybe the reason why people are now telling you to shut up is you're being an idiot? Just because you think you have a right to say something does not mean that you should say something. OOOOOH, so some people may offer unconditional support of something, that means its another cult. Bullshit. Plenty of parents offer full support of their children even when they're doing something really dumb but that's only because they want to see them succede. If you think you can actually do something any better (instead of just talking about it) then by all means get up off your butt and do it.
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The Pot Calling the Kettle Black
by IslandWoman ini wonder sometimes if to outsiders who visit this and other xjw discussion boards it seems as if xjws never "bought the farm" and that's why they look down on those who did.
there is much ridicule of the rank and file here, why?
if we placed literature, conducted a bible study, brought a bible study to the point of baptism, gave talks, commented at the watchtower study, volunteered,
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Jesus Christ
You could not make fun of the idiots who go out and do their bit to push the literature onto people who don't really want it or you could realize how big of an idiot you were for believing that stuff too. Know what the difference between an apostate and a good JW is? The apostate realizes that they've made a mistake. Everybody makes mistakes and there's nothing wrong with that. The only that really matters is how you deal with those mistakes.
Its like the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me a few hundred times and I get what I deserve.
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My Redemption Against the JW's
by Reborn2002 inquite a while ago i made a promise to myself not to allow the organization known as jehovah's witnesses to have an effect on my life any longer.
i had washed my hands of them and their disgusting propaganda machine disguised as a religion.
an old addage says the best revenge is to live life, and to live it well.
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Kick some ass Reborn. Glad to see you posting again because I've always really enjoyed reading them. Even better to see someone giving the company men what they deserve in front of as many people as possible. Keep it up man.
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Changes
by Jesus Christ ini was going through my closet today and came across a box of old pictures.
some of them had this girl i used to be friends with in them.
we were friends in school and after graduation she was one of the only people i cared to stay in touch with.
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I don't really know what all changed while she was gone. Maybe it was her, maybe it was the US, maybe it was her friends. She was only gone for about a month or so. After the whole carpet cleaning incident I started talking to her again and she never returned back to her old self. Too bad too because before she was someone I really liked but after that trip she just wasn't somebody I really wanted to hang out with because she had changed so much for the worse. She went from strong and confident young woman who worked her @$$ off at school (with great results) in hopes of becoming a journalist to college dropout (one semester before graduation) working a front desk, making not much above minimum wage, and engaged to a guy she started dating while he was still married to another woman in about a year's time. Funny thing was, I was a JW at the time (though not very good one to say the least) and almost thought she had joined a cult or something but she would have told me about that and even with her new personality I really don't see that as something she would do. Now I'm about as big of an apostate as you can get.
Don't know what happened and really, I'm suprised I still care so much, or even at all.
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Did The Organization MAKE YOU GO NUTS???
by minimus indid you or do you now feel that because you were in the organization you could have gone crazy?
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Quite a bit of my time today was spent going through old stuff. Old pictures, high school year books, letters from friends, that sort of thing. I really can say that my life, growing up, would have been much much much better had I not been a JW. When I was 16 I almost killed myself because I thought I was a burden and let down to my family, friends, and even god himself because of a judicial meeting. The only thing that pulled me through was knowing my non-JW girlfriend would have been devestated. In a sad way, its almost funny. A group that claims to be the only way to life nearly kills me and the only thing that keeps me around is the very thing that the JW's claim will kill me. I also spent a lot of my time back in school doing everything I could not to fit in. Why? Because all those kids were worldly and would just bring me down. If I could make myself so undesirable that they wouldn't want to hang around me I wouldn't have to go through with explaining why I didn't want to be around them. All I really did is turn off a bunch of really great people who I only wish I knew now. I even used to have panic attacks with halucinations and everything because of all the constant pressure from being a JW. The entire weight of the world is my shoulders. I must go convert more people because if I don't and they die at armagedon their blood will be on my hands. All the while I can't figure out why things that feel so good, natural, and right can possibly be wrong. In the 3+ years I've been out of the JW's I haven't had one single panic attack. What's weird is I used to cough all the time. Doctors thought it was asthma and I had to use multiple inhalers to lessen them (though by no means get rid of them). I still do need an inhaler for when I'm doing something athletic but other than that I never touch them, especially the preventive inhalers and cough much less. I've read that sometimes coughing all the time can be caused by stress. I don't have the pressure from JW's and I hardly cough at all anymore unless I'm sick or doing something very active.
Yes, they did make me crazy and I hate them for it. I absolutely hate them.
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Changes
by Jesus Christ ini was going through my closet today and came across a box of old pictures.
some of them had this girl i used to be friends with in them.
we were friends in school and after graduation she was one of the only people i cared to stay in touch with.
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I was going through my closet today and came across a box of old pictures. Some of them had this girl I used to be friends with in them. We were friends in school and after graduation she was one of the only people I cared to stay in touch with. We got to be closer over the next year or so but never really dated or anything like that (though the thought crossed my mind and I'm pretty sure it did her's too). She was fun, had a good sense of humor, smart, and fiercely loyal to those close to her. Then she went over to Europe to visit a friend over the summer and they had a bit of a falling out. I remember I actually left a meeting to go pick this friend up in a city a couple of hours away (did I mention she was never a JW?) because she came home a few days early.
When she got back home it was like she was a totally different person. She was careless, at times mean, and we ended up having our own falling out because she thought I was part of a conspiracy to break into her house to clean her carpets and, no, I'm not making that up either. She actually went off the deep end about how we while she was gone myself, another girl we were friends with, and that girl's boyfriend were doing everything we could to get into her house to clean the carpets.
Its like one of my friends went to Europe and a completely different person came back and I still don't know why. Have any of you ever had something like that happen to someone you knew? If so, what caused it? Did they ever get back to normal?